WELS: [Welstech] church A/V

Thu Jan 24 20:56:25 CST 2008

Karl,

Thank you for the information. Yes I had considered that approach but in our
facility we are currently recording our A/V programs to five different
media. We have been in a transitions state for the past two years or so,
moving from older analog tape formats to digit. The reason, we still have
several older members that love the technologies they are familiar with. 

It really is not that large of a problem because I use distribution
amplifiers to multiply the A/V signals. The key to the system we are slowly
putting in place is, keep it simple with a great deal of flexibility. I know
those are contradictory thoughts but putting quality into the end product
was my first thought, followed by simplicity. I needed the simplicity to
help in quickly training others in the running the A/V production
environment, with little effort and still keeping the quality there. We are
not completely there yet, but getting pretty close.

Thank you again - I will keep "Super" in mind for other churches I am
helping. 

Yours in Christ, JohnR McCarthy  

-----Original Message-----
From: welstech-bounces at messenger.wels.net
[mailto:welstech-bounces at messenger.wels.net] On Behalf Of Karl Henselin
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:31 AM
To: JohnR McCarthy
Cc: welstech at messenger.wels.net
Subject: Re: WELS: [Welstech] church A/V

You can record audio or video direct to PC, never worry about a tape or cd
for that again, use audacity as a sound recorder and editor (it is free) and
as powerful as anything else out there, and skip some of those steps, or you
can get hookups for video recording as well.

You would need a few different cables to get the audio or video to the line
in on the computer instead of the recorder, for audio, a total cost of about
$50, and for video, maybe $200.

Also, the program "Super" would let you get the sound out of any file
format, so you only need one video recording instead of two seperate ones.

Karl Henselin

On Jan 22, 2008 8:39 PM, JohnR McCarthy <jrmccar1 at airmail.net> wrote:
>
> Pastor Rik Krahn,
>
> At Calvary Dallas, we too are currently using Pinnacle Studio 10 & 11 
> for video capture, editing and DVD/Web Site distribution. However, we 
> also capture the audio for CD/Web Site distribution separately. I 
> personally am not impressed with the audio editor in Pinnacle product, 
> so for the video production I do very limited editing of audio side.
>
> Secondly, I am fully aware of your limited budget requirements, but I 
> have discovered that recording the audio separately for the Audio 
> CD/Web Site distribution is worth the money and time.
>
> We capture the audio directly to a TASCAM CC-222 CD/Cassette recorder. 
> The CD recording has a limit of 79 minutes, so if the service runs 
> over (like for Communion Sundays) a second CD is usually required. 
> Switching between the two CDs becomes a balancing/timing act. That is 
> why I am considering purchasing a Microboards Copy-Writer Live, that 
> has two CD Recorders and is the only multi-record that automatically 
> switches CDs for you  .... not missing a beat! Both units can be found for
$700 to $800.
>
> I take the CDs and load them into a PC using "MAGIX mp3 maker deluxe"
> software. It is a very inexpensive software package (est. $50) and has 
> a very good audio editor. I divide the full service into separate 
> audio tracks for the CD distribution (80 minutes). Plus I take the 
> Sermon and convert it for Web Site distribution. You can burn the 
> master CD from this software package but I just like to use the package
that came with my DVD/CD burner.
>
> We distribute about 20 CDs each week so I purchased a Microboards 
> DVD/CD Duplicator 3to1. However the 1to1 duplicator is great also. 
> Both are very easy to use and easy to train others on. Additionally we 
> generate a somewhat simple label on the pc and print to a Hp OfficeJet 
> two (per sheet) at a time. I tried several label packages and have 
> stuck with NEATO (by Fellowes) after talking to a member of another 
> church body who does the same for their services. Been very satisfied with
the product.
>
> Mite I suggest that despite the cost I have shown here, in my mind the 
> quality of the end product has again been well worth the time, and has 
> been well received in both distribution mediums.
>
> It is my prayer that this is some help to you through your time of 
> discovery.
> JohnR McCarthy,
> Technology Lead,
> Calvary Lutheran Church & School
> Dallas, TX
>
> ________________________________
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> [mailto:welstech-bounces at messenger.wels.net] On Behalf Of Jason A. 
> Winget
> (N9XYX)
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:33 PM
> To: RikKrahn at MartinLutherNeenah.org; welstech at messenger.wels.net
> Subject: Re: WELS: [Welstech] church A/V
>
>
>
> We have also decided to go digital.  We are taking it a step further 
> and going to edit the services with Pinnacle Studio 11 before burning a
DVD for
> the TV station and creating a web version for online.   We are also going
to
> take that audio and try to create a audio format for our radio ministry.
>
> To answer your audio question:  you should be able to convert the 
> audio from video to audio format.  You should not need to have an 
> additional audio recorder.  I have looked at this:
>
> http://www.av2mp3.com/faq/convert-wmv-to-mp3.htm
>
> I have not tried it, but it looks promising for the cost.
>
>
>
> Pastor Rik Krahn <RikKrahn at MartinLutherNeenah.org> wrote:
> Several months back our tape machine, that we use to record our 
> worship services, quit working. Instead of immediately spending the 
> money to replace it, we decided to explore our options. After getting 
> approval, and the money to spend, now we need to decide exactly what 
> to get.
>
> I'm hoping you might be able to help with some thoughts, or possibly 
> some vendors from which we can get a good price.
>
> Essentially, we're going digital. Both audio and video. So we're 
> looking for a decent (yet affordable) digital camcorder, something 
> that we can easily reproduce DVD's from. We'll also need a CD/DVD
duplicator.
> And we also want to record audio -- can we do that from the same 
> digital file? If we record the service from the camcorder onto a hard 
> drive, can we rip just the sudio form that file to put on a CD? Or do 
> we need a separate audio recorder?
>
> Thanks for any thoughts you may have -- especially concerning places 
> we might look to purchase from.
>
> Rik Krahn
> Pastor, Martin Luther Church
> Neenah, WI
> www.MartinLutherNeenah.org
>
>
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